Hosted by Eleanor Drage and Kerry Mackereth, The Good Robot is a podcast which explores the many complex intersections between gender, feminism and technology. In this episode, Eleanor and Kerry talk to Emily M. Bender and Alex Hanna, AI ethics legends and co-hosts of the Mystery AI Hype Theatre 3000 podcast, in which they dispel the hype storm around AI. Emily is a professor of linguistics at The University of Washington and the co-author of that stochastic parrots paper. Alex Hanna is the director of research at the Distributed AI Research Institute (DAIR), which is run by Timnit Gebru. In this episode, they argue that we should stop using the term AI altogether, and that the world might be better without text-to-image systems like DALL·E and Midjourney. They tell us how the AI hype agents are getting high on their own supply, and give some advice for young people going into tech careers.